ancora su USB PEN DRIVE che non viene LETTA!!!

appena istallato ubuntu, non mi legge più nessuna periferica USB... ho letto gli altri post ma non sono riuscito a risolvere!

Quando la inserisco mi da il segnale audio, da terminale è rilevata e gparted la legge!!!

Ma non mi appare tra i dispositivi utilizzabili nelle "altre posizioni" dei file e neppure dalle impostazioni viene considerata come "dispositivo mobile"...

CHE POSSO FARE?!?!?!?

pendrive usb

chiesto 21 May '20, 10:23

pi28
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0	la vedi da: lsusb viene montata? df -HT vedi errori da: dmesg \| grep sd coll. permanente ha risposto 21 May '20, 10:42 sacarde 134●11●12●18

@sacarde

la vedo: si
il comando df-HT me lo da come "comando non trovato"

con dmesg|grep sd mi da:

[    1.118142] sdhci: Secure Digital Host Controller Interface driver
[    1.118143] sdhci: Copyright(c) Pierre Ossman
[    1.124707] sdhci-pci 0000:13:00.1: SDHCI controller found [10ec:5209] (rev 1)
[    1.125729] sdhci-pci 0000:13:00.1: Will use DMA mode even though HW doesn't fully claim to support it.
[    1.126319] sdhci-pci 0000:13:00.1: Will use DMA mode even though HW doesn't fully claim to support it.
[    1.127115] sdhci-pci 0000:13:00.1: Will use DMA mode even though HW doesn't fully claim to support it.
[    1.485543] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[    1.485570] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 1250263728 512-byte logical blocks: (640 GB/596 GiB)
[    1.485583] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
[    1.485586] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
[    1.485601] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[    1.555397]  sda: sda1
[    1.555889] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
[    2.096039] EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[    7.188850] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[   89.212326] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 7884800 512-byte logical blocks: (4.04 GB/3.76 GiB)
[   89.213058] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[   89.213067] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[   89.213797] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
[   89.213810] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[   89.217697] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[   89.373675]  sdb: sdb1
[   89.376386] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[   89.386278] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[   89.386285] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[   89.386291] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[   89.472171] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[   89.472175] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[   89.472177] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[   89.472182] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 985599, async page read
[   89.522524] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[   89.522529] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[   89.522532] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[   89.608286] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[   89.608291] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[   89.608294] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[   89.608299] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb1, logical block 985343, async page read
[  277.099687] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[  277.100929] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 7884800 512-byte logical blocks: (4.04 GB/3.76 GiB)
[  277.102300] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[  277.102303] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[  277.105969] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
[  277.105974] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  277.128575]  sdb: sdb1
[  277.131302] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[  277.139049] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[  277.139054] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[  277.139057] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[  277.218680] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[  277.218685] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[  277.218688] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[  277.218693] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 985599, async page read
[  277.271802] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[  277.271807] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[  277.271810] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[  277.358576] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[  277.358580] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[  277.358583] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[  277.358587] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb1, logical block 985343, async page read
[ 1248.828077] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 7884800 512-byte logical blocks: (4.04 GB/3.76 GiB)
[ 1248.828667] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[ 1248.828827] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[ 1248.828835] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[ 1248.829463] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
[ 1248.829476] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 1248.851867]  sdb: sdb1
[ 1248.854661] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[ 1248.863621] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1248.863628] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1248.863633] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1248.948973] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1248.948984] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1248.948992] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1248.949003] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 985599, async page read
[ 1249.019696] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1249.019706] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1249.019714] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1249.109037] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1249.109047] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1249.109055] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1249.109067] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb1, logical block 985343, async page read
[ 1596.041240] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1596.041245] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1596.041249] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1596.128252] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1596.128264] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1596.128274] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1596.128298] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 985599, async page read
[ 1596.144489] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1596.144493] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1596.144496] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1596.220283] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1596.220294] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1596.220301] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1596.220313] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb1, logical block 985343, async page read
[ 1597.307020] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1597.307026] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1597.307030] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1597.395759] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1597.395764] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1597.395768] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1597.395774] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb1, logical block 985343, async page read
[ 1597.413251] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1597.413259] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1597.413265] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1597.503775] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1597.503782] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1597.503788] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1597.503795] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 985599, async page read
[ 1597.518600]  sdb: sdb1
[ 1597.535475] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1597.535480] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1597.535484] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1597.612304] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1597.612313] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1597.612320] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1597.612330] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 985599, async page read
[ 1597.723988] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb1, logical block 985343, async page read
[ 1597.859845] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 985599, async page read
[ 1597.963809] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb1, logical block 985343, async page read
[ 1598.483766] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb1, logical block 985343, async page read
[ 1598.599923] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 985599, async page read
[ 1614.379019] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[ 1614.379588] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 7884800 512-byte logical blocks: (4.04 GB/3.76 GiB)
[ 1614.380213] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[ 1614.380221] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[ 1614.380823] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
[ 1614.380831] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 1614.403364]  sdb: sdb1
[ 1614.406297] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[ 1614.415394] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1614.415401] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1614.415407] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1614.496678] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1614.496693] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1614.496703] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1614.496718] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 985599, async page read
[ 1614.570080] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1614.570090] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1614.570098] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1614.652574] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1614.652585] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1614.652593] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1614.652605] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb1, logical block 985343, async page read
[ 1752.044293] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1752.044299] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1752.044303] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1752.132388] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1752.132394] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1752.132398] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1752.132404] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 985599, async page read
[ 1752.151146] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1752.151151] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1752.151155] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1752.232399] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 1752.232403] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 1752.232405] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 1752.232409] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb1, logical block 985343, async page read
[ 5118.587142] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[ 5118.588397] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 7884800 512-byte logical blocks: (4.04 GB/3.76 GiB)
[ 5118.589056] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[ 5118.589067] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[ 5118.589803] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
[ 5118.589817] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 5118.612314]  sdb: sdb1
[ 5118.615435] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[ 5118.625945] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 5118.625952] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 5118.625957] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 5118.709035] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 5118.709045] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 5118.709053] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 5118.709065] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 985599, async page read
[ 5118.773786] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 5118.773797] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 5118.773812] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 5118.853004] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[ 5118.853017] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 78 4f f8 00 00 01 00
[ 5118.853027] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7884792 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[ 5118.853041] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb1, logical block 985343, async page read

coll. permanente

ha risposto 21 May '20, 11:15

pi28
20●1●1●2

0	il comando per vederla montata e': df -HT e' la sdb ? da gparted puoi fare un controllo/fsck della partizione, ci sono errori coll. permanente ha risposto 21 May '20, 11:34 sacarde 134●11●12●18

0	@sacarde ehm.. perdonami ':) df -HT: risulta montata su /dev si il percorso è /dev/sdb su gparted non mi da nessun errore... coll. permanente ha risposto 21 May '20, 12:15 pi28 20●1●1●2

@sacarde ho fatto la richiesta supporto su gparted e mi da un sacco di crocette rosse... può darsi che sia il btrfs-progs / btfrs-tools!?!?! mi segnala anche exfat; f2fs; hfs; hfs2; jfs; luks; lvm2 PPV; nilfs2; reiser4; reiserfs; udf; ufs; xfs .... tutte "X" rosse!!!

e poi non mi da risultati se chiedo il "controllo azioni supportate!

coll. permanente

ha risposto 21 May '20, 12:42

pi28
20●1●1●2

il comando: df -HT

ti da le partizioni montate, il path e il filesystem usato

riesci a fare il check della partizione di cui parliamo?
per caricare immagini: https://imagebin.ca

(21 May '20, 14:08) sacarde

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